In 10×05 Jensen made the silly face because it was a reference to cockles not destiel dude they were talking about the actors being irl together. The Destiel ref in that ep was Dean being like OMG shuddup Sammy exactly like with Cassie in season 1. That was the Destiel v W*ncest reaction from Dean and Sam. Grossed out v totally cool with it Sam just ribbing his brother and Dean actually bringing it up to Sam to test the water then being like nope not talking about this for real cos I’m embarrassed about my crush like a freaking teenager.
If you did watch the video you’d see he was having a shit day, was short with everyone and snapped. Also I’m pretty sure the person asking the question was a bibro who snickered. Dude plays to his audience, if you want positive nice Jensen stuff don’t watch creation gold panels, he’s generally on the back foot, looks like he doesn’t particularly want to be there and let’s Jared take the lead.
Want fun upbeat happy Jensen? Watch the jibcon panels.
Also remember Jensen doesn’t make decisions like this about his character and the story writing ANYWAY. We need to stop this “J2 are the show” crap. Sure they make it work and it can’t happen without them but it also can’t happen without actual you know writers show runners producers crew execs, they don’t just show up on Monday and get followed around by a camera, someone else writes the story and stuff like that is the writers remit under the guidance for big huge important things like this of ANDREW DABB.
Completely agree with Tink that J2 really don’t have much say in the script. As they’ve been on the show for an incredibly long time (in TV terms) they are somewhat allowed to change a word or line of dialogue here and there, but that is it.
In TV the departments all interact, but they are a lot more separate than people assume. When making a show people are on very tight and stressful deadlines and on big productions, departments can actually work across a large physical area which means that production can be quite a separate thing, and therefore the people involved in the script are separate from everyone else for a long while.
When it comes to the script, the writers and showrunners will sit in a development meeting early on and gauge where the scripts and show are going. Then writers will go off and write the episode. Screenwriters themselves will normally write 4 drafts of a single script and then that will be the first white script. So before scripts are redrafted by more writers this script will have gone through a process of a writer’s multiple drafts and preceding meetings with all the writers. Whilst the writer is writing the script they’ll have the help of a script researcher and will also be in contact with the other writers. Then they’ll come together and check and alter them. In this process there’ll be the writers, script editors, script researchers, and also showrunners to double check its in line with where the general show is going. Throughout this process the execs may get to hear where the show is going, but many times they’re involved with the business side of the whole production and just want to know the ship is running smoothly so won’t be involved in the details of the script. In general execs will be in conversation just with the showrunner and lead producer, and maybe the line producer (the person involved with budgeting). Through many meeting with various people the script will go through multiple coloured revisions and will be given to other departments. Finally after a long process the script will be in a later draft and given to the actors before shooting starts.
During actual production, the producers, writer, and script editor will normally be on the stage/on set to oversee the shooting of scenes (this is who is on set in the dramas I’ve worked on). The writer will be checking the actors are sticking to the script, the script editor will be very very carefully checking the spoken dialogue is in line with the script and will be making detailed notes to send to the edit office. The producer might be there checking that the script is in line with the direction, and the showrunner might also be there to check the script is in line with overarching plots. If the producer or showrunner is not on set then they will, and many times are, contacted consistently to check things with regard to the script.
The interesting thing about this is that when the episode is being shot, any small changes in dialogue is noted to the script editor so they can make notes in order to tell the editors that this scene deviates from the script. If J2M were changing dialogue here and there, then the editors and people in post-production who all have scripts for the episode are going to get very confused. So if actors change the script at all then everyone across pre and post production is going to have a script to work from which doesn’t match the actor’s dialogue.
Basically, what I’m trying to say in a roundabout way, is that J2M are very very very very low on the list of who can change even a single script, let alone huge overarching plots on the show. They may be slightly consulted or pre-warned about big things by the showrunners, but anyone who has worked in TV production knows that you let people work in their department and you don’t have any say really. ‘The Talent’ as they’re called, just doesn’t have much if any influence on the written script, and changing one line can get confusing for editors and so it’s best not to change it.
So I really wouldn’t worry about what Jensen says his interpretation of the show is, because he is like us. Whilst we watch the show and speculate, he reads the script and speculates, but all of us are trying to work out what’s being said in those early writing meetings. Basically, everyone can be pretty assured that the actors have very very little power to change the script, let alone the huge season plots 🙂
Thank you for your POV from someone in the know 🙂
We know that they do change lines on occasion, changing a word here or there or like Slumber Party so help me flipping who said what line, because Robbie wasn’t onsite and I am still bitter because this was such a fuck up but oh well Dabb clearly has strong reins now and is sticking to the same path so meh, but yes absolutely they have ultimately extremely little say over lines let alone huge overreacting plot arcs and character endgames. That is left to the people who’s JOB it is to do that.
Logic. Yay!
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