regarding Sam and Halloween, I thought his explanation was weird at first too, until I realized that Sam talks to Jess about not liking Halloween in the pilot, so his hatred for Halloween came before Jess. I also think he was too young when his mother died for that to have an affect on his feelings for Halloween so ultimately I was kinda okay with it.

thejabberwock:

I think it just would make a lot more sense if Sam hated Halloween because like he said, for them, it’s Halloween every day. And we get an understanding in the pilot that he hates it because of what happened to his mom and because of their monster life. That’s why I figured that put that little bit in there about hating Halloween in the first place. That’s essentially the first scene we get of Sam right after we watch Mary die and his life is altered. A random comment about hating Halloween doesn’t make sense unless it was about his history. 

Halloween is fun for kids because of the fantasy involved and for Sam and Dean, there’s no fantasy of monsters. The monsters are real and have ruined their lives. And for Dean, we found out (although it’s what most of us knew all along) Dean likes the Halloween stuff because for once, the bad guys lose in that fantasy world. We got insight into Dean with that revelation. With Sam, we got a weird story about a crush. And I think it would have made a lot more sense, within the story if Sam hated Halloween because of the non-fantasy. Story-wise, it makes a lot more sense. Hating Halloween because you embarrassed yourself in front of your crush when you were a kid just doesn’t fit. 

I’m probably going to regret replying to two metas on the same subject, but, here goes:  

I can totally see how that would be traumatic!  I once walked into the boys bathroom in middle school, and having grown up in a family without any males I couldn’t make heads or tails of why the “sinks looked so weird” and was totally mortified when a couple of boys walked in on me (even though I was in the stall and they never saw me) and I refused to ever wear the clothes I was wearing that day ever again.

missjackil:

divionline:

samismyman87:

nancylou444:

That story about why Sam hates Halloween is stupid on a bunch if levels. Aside from the obvious ones, but if Sam had been that upset at a party and hid out in the woods, wouldn’t Dean have known about it THEN?

Yes I did find this part dumb.

Sam not liking Christmas made sense but the Halloween story was just silly.

That is what I was saying in another post. Even if Sam acted as if everything was alright on that night, his dislike would have shown the next year, and Dean isn’t a dense guy that he wouldn’t notice, neither is he an idiot that he wouldn’t have deduced what had happened. They could have left it out entirely, and still have had the BM.

Nah I liked it. Sam has always been a secret keeper and Dean doesnt figure all of them out now, why would he then? Besides, we all were ok with the reason Sam gave in S4, which probably worked with Dean all that time, even if they still went trick or treating, tho, Dean was already too old for it probably. Even though it was brought up when we first meet Sam, in 1×01 it was never treated like a big issue, like some big trauma led to it. So now we have a story to it, a quite traumatic yet human story, it didnt have to do with death or monsters or abandonment, and neither John nor Dean are to blame. Just another layer of Sam given to us as a bonus. Even normal life things gave Sam a hard time. 

I can totally see how that would be traumatic!  I once walked into the boys bathroom in middle school, and having grown up in a family without any males I couldn’t make heads or tails of why the “sinks looked so weird” and was totally mortified when a couple of boys walked in on me (even though I was in the stall and they never saw me) and I refused to ever wear the clothes I was wearing that day ever again.